There aren’t many success stories out there, that’s for sure. John Scalzi, Cherie Priest and David Wellington are the few that pop to mind who’ve put their work on a website and then sold the work(s) for print. I know there are others, but they are few and far between, and the numbers of writers getting published in the traditional manner is still the steady king as far as sheer numbers are concerned.
But it’s just so hard, and I’m just so lazy, and hey, I’m 38. If I have to wait six months to get my rejection from Tor and then another six to get my rejection from (publisher #2) and then a year to get one from (publisher C) then I’ll be 40 and still sitting on my book. Worse, unagented works rarely get a fair shake, so the really real route to ramble through would be to shoot for an agent and hope she’ll sell the book. I just don’t know if I have it in me. The patience, I mean. We all know rejections are a part of the writing life; I don’t fear rejections, I just don’t want to get bored in the waiting.
It might be different if I was doing this for a living, but this is my hobby. Sure, I want to be a published author–and I am, in short stories–but it’s not like I won’t be able to feed my kids if I don’t sell this book. Having sold a few short I at least have enough confidence to say “I do not suck” with some authority. At least three editors have liked my stories enough to publish them, and one of them did so three times. Some considerations:
- The positive: Publishers will and do buy books that have been posted online. They may ask you to remove it immediately, but if they like it, and if it has any kind of readership, they’ll buy it. It’s proven.
- The negative: I’ll be missing out on the valuable editing process. Sure, some writers churn out work that doesn’t need any editing, but I’m not those writers. For a publisher to take me on she’d almost certainly have to refine my writing. I’ve got style, oh yes, but I’ve got some bad habits too, that have been hard for me to kick. I know I wrote a story that I’m proud of, and it’s something I would read myself, but then I’m invested in it. It’s my baby. You, though, you are the ones who would–or wouldn’t–read it. An editor could ease me through that process, help me fashion it to suit the market. But. But.
- The other negative: People don’t respect web-published authors. I’ve seen sites myself and sneered at my screen for having the audacity to show me a web-published author.
- The what if: I found David Wellington’s books through a BoingBoing post. David is a good writer who sold his books, which are still posted on his website. Linkage from a site like BB would be huge. Huge. But very unlikely. Their safety net intelligently requires that they read any fiction before posting a link to it, and as you can imagine, Cory is swamped with requests and isn’t accepting any new ones for the foreseeable future.
So I’ve got a positive, two negatives, and a what if. In dealing with the first negative I can only say that I would have to really focus on editing it down myself, and that if it’s a good enough story it’ll sell itself. Right? And I can edit; of the five shorts I’ve sold every one was posted/printed in the shape I submitted them in. I’m just not particularly good at it and, again, I’m basically lazy.
For the second negative I can say that when I saw David Wellington’s site I didn’t sneer. Why is that? Why does he automatically garner special attention as a web-published writer? And this was before I’d read the first word of any of his stories. Was it because I’d found it through the BoingBoing link, and therefore it was automatically presumed to be a “qualified” read? Or maybe it was because it was presented very well, with a cool dedicated graphic header. I don’t know, but something about the site said “writer” all over it, and therefore I bookmarked the link and referred back to it later. After reading some of his stuff, I found it to be very good and I gladly recommend it. So.
To self-publish or not to self-publish. All I know is I’m building the website now, and I’m dreading the prospect of querying this thing till I’m on the shady side of 90. The Down in the Cellar story will appear March 1st, so that should draw a lurker or ten, and maybe one of them would have liked The Ghost of Tom Johns enough to give my book a go. Plus, this blog is beginning to get noticed a bit more. Most of the hits bounce almost immediately away, but some of them stick around and read a page or two.
Any thoughts? Comments? Would you read it, or at least give it a try? Note: The excerpt I posted the other day was very gory; I should note here that that was one of the few examples of graphic violence in the book. I just particularly liked that scene, so I shared it with you.
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December 20th, 2007 at 1:10 pm
Matt–I like your writing style and would read your stuff.
Yours is a very specific niche and I would assume, not easily marketable.
I’ve never had any dealing with agents in any business, but I’d susptect Drew Rosenhouse would not be the type you want.
I’ve heard that in the online world, luck respresents 90% of the mix when comparing those who make it, and those who don’t.
AL
December 20th, 2007 at 4:22 pm
What you need is numbers. Hits in the thousands daily. Or a good link from a big site, like Boing Boing. I’m convinced that Scalzi got noticed by TOR because he had the traffic to his site to increase his odds of being noticed.
My novel Starstrikers has been online and available for purchase for several years now. Nothing. I have not advertised for it at all. Those that have read it like it, but it needs a good edit/rewrite. I’ll come back to it some day.
One thing you might want to do is put your novel up on the wiki and let people open source edit it. If your read a chapter and notice a typo or some such thing, leave a suggested edit. This way after some time, you may have a better manuscript. Or a mess.
As long as this is a hobby, take the time to get an agent. You can always keep writing while you wait. I’m 42 and I don’t have a lot of time left either, but I’m still going the agent route.
Either way you go, your odds are about the same.
December 20th, 2007 at 7:45 pm
AL, Hold on let me give Drew a call. … … No, he says he’s not taking any more fantasy fiction authors on right now. Shucks. I thought that was a shoe in :-)
December 20th, 2007 at 7:50 pm
Ken, here’s what I’m wondering, and this might just be crazy, I don’t know: what about serializing? Build a dedicated site and post chapters once or twice a week. I agree you would need huge numbers, but might that not attract some readers? Cherie Priest published her book off her blog, and while she had some readers it wasn’t Scalzi numbers. David Wellington happens to be friends with Cory Doctorow and landed the coveted BoingBoing linkage. But the thing that makes Wellington different is that he serialized his, and while he may not have been published before the BB post, he definitely had readers. Of course, all those people wrote perfectly publishable fiction, and therein lies the crux, as they say. Still, the question is will serializing help to gather readers?
December 20th, 2007 at 8:10 pm
Ken, now that I’m thinking about it another question’s popped into my head. I’ve clicked on your book and visited your Lulu site, I haven’t d-loaded the book yet, I’ll get around to it, but I’m wondering what you’ve done marketing-wise? How’s your SEO, as they say in blogging parlance?
Is it conceivable to think that if you offered it in a different format that it might be more widely read? What if you posted it in .doc format right on your site, or posted it in your blog chapter by chapter in serial format? I don’t know if any of these things would help, I’m just curious.
December 21st, 2007 at 12:37 am
I was serializing it for a few months about a year ago, but I did not get any new hits from it. It’s possible I was getting fewer hits than I am now and it was just too little to get any attention.
I like your idea of setting up a blog just for the book, but then it’s like starting over for getting the numbers. If I were to do that again, I’d just do it on My View. I have the book as a PDF, HTML pages and a Microsoft Reader format, but I don’t have it as a .doc. That would be easy enough same for Open Doc format.
On Google “Starstrikers” as in my book and not the cartoon thing, is number 3 and 4. I would guess that’s pretty fair. Have not checked other engines.
I honestly think getting a publisher or an agent hooked by your blog is a matter of who you know as much as who knows you as well as old fashioned luck.
I did get a doubling of hits the day I posted the Tyrmia chapter, so who knows? I say do what you want. I think once my short stories get out there early next year and I continue to sell more and build some readership, that can only help.
December 21st, 2007 at 1:01 pm
You may be right, Ken, about the luck bit. But then it seems to come to that no matter which way you decide to go, doesn’t it? I respect your intentions to go the agented route, I just don’t know if it’s for me. But that’s my point–I just don’t know :-(